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#41 TeleProphet

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 07:25 PM

The Town Lift has always had a terrible alignment and even PCMR ownership has admitted as much. It was never condusive to doing anything more than uploading and downloading at the beginning and end of the day. It actually serves excellent terrain and the realignmet to adjacent to Payday top terminal would greatly enhance the skiing experience in that area.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 09:09 PM

Holiday Valley improvements OK'd

The latest round of upgrades at Holiday Valley Ski Resort has received unanimous approval from the leading Cattaraugus County economic development agency.

The County of Cattaraugus Industrial Development Agency's board approved an incentive package that will help Holiday Valley undertake $2.2 million worth of improvements at various points on the ski resort's campus. The funding, to Holiday Valley's parent company Win-Sum Ski Corp., was approved July 29. The project has been in the IDA's pipeline since late April.

The projects include a new pavilion near Holiday Valley's main Yodler lodge and the installation of slope groomers and snow-making machinery both at the resort and the nearby Holiday Valley Tubing Co.

Other renovations will take place at the Inn at Holiday Valley hotel and the high-speed lift alongside the Morningside Run that will also help service a new trail that's expected debut during the 2009-2010 season.

"Holiday Valley remains a top destination in the county," said Corey Witkor, Cattaraugus IDA executive director. "It's very encouraging to see Holiday Valley consistently invest back into their campus."
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 10:53 PM

The lift related portion of an article from the Aspen Times on Buttermilk's new Master Plan:

"The proposed new Tiehack lift would replace the two lifts that now serve the steepest part of Buttermilk. It would be a high-speed quad that would take seven minutes to reach the summit instead of 15 minutes.

As part of building the new lift, SkiCo is proposing to lower the top of the Tiehack lift terminal by 12 feet — by moving 8,000 cubic yards of dirt over six acres at the summit — so that the top terminals of both the Tiehack and Summit Express lifts are nearly on the same level.

SkiCo also wants to nearly double the amount of terrain covered by snowmaking from 119 to 222 acres. Currently the mountain has the capability to make snow from about midway under the Summit Express lift down to the base area and on the slopes at the very bottom of Tiehack. New snowmaking would add coverage on Ridge Trail and Jacob’s Ladder, which would help with the formation of the Crazy T’Rain Park.

Other trails to get snowmaking include Westward Ho on West Buttermilk and Tiehack Parkway and Racer’s Edge on the Tiehack side.

Additional snowmaking capacity requires additional water and SkiCo is proposing two new snowmaking ponds near the existing compressor building on Homestead Road below the Savio trail. One of the ponds would require an “earthen embankment dam” approximately 20 feet tall that would fall under the state’s dam safety regulations. The two ponds would store 4.8 million gallons of water.

Snowmaking ponds make it easier to take advantage of optimal snowmaking conditions, which sometimes only last a few hours on fall nights. The ponds would also help protect against a sudden draw down of Maroon Creek, according to SkiCo.

A new 3,000-square-foot lift maintenance building is proposed for a spot 600 feet northeast of the top of the West Buttermilk Express lift, between the Tom’s Thumb and Westward Ho trails. And a new 6,000-square-foot vehicle maintenance building is proposed near the existing snowmaking buildings between Savio and Jacob’s ladder. The new vehicle maintenance building would include storage for 60,000 gallons of diesel fuel for snowcats and snowmobiles."
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 10:55 PM

Kicking Horse Mountain Resort Unveils New Draft Master Plan

Golden (BC), Canada - Kicking Horse Mountain Resort will unveil a new Draft Master Plan this week during a series of Open House sessions in the B.C. ski and snowboard resort's home town of Golden.

The new Draft Master Plan proposes the expansion of the existing ski resort (KHMR) into a destination resort including a signature 18-hole golf course, a densification of the resort base and major improvements to the ski area, including a new detachable chairlift to replace the existing Pioneer chairlift that will be further extended to access the Stairway to Heaven lift to the mountaintop ridgeline. Another small lift, initially a T-bar an later to be replaced by a chairlift, would be installed to ease the return route from Feuz Bowl or Stairway to Heaven to allow skiers to reach the Eagle's Eye Restaurant without having to return to the ski resort's base area. Plans also call for replacement of the Catamount chair with a detachable model, installation of magic carpet lifts for ski school and a pulse gondola to carry skiers and riders from an enlarged day parking area. New lifts would allow for an expansion of ski terrain to the mountain face south of the existing ski area. At the other end, two new lifts at the north end would bring skiers into another bowl north of Rudi's Bowl. A lift on the back side would allow early and late season skiing with uploading and downloading via the existing gondola.


Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (KHMR) opened in the 2000-01 ski season with the dramatic introduction of a gondola to the top of the mountain range, expanding the existing local White Tooth Ski Hill, and following this rapid start bouyed by overwhelming local support it now has to look at the long term future, resort officials assert.

“The time has come to re-think this project, taking a fresh look at the plans, the markets, the community and what we have learned in the past eight years,” says Kicking Horse’s President Steve Paccagnan. “Ballast Nedam, the owners of KHMR, are enthusiastic about the opportunity to make the resort even more successful into the future.”

After a year of planning with the development team at KHMR and resort industry consultants, Kicking Horse Mountain Resort’s management is submitting an amended Draft Master Plan to update and expand the 1999 Master Plan for Kicking Horse Mountain resort by formally submitting the plan to the government of British Columbia (Under the Commercial Alpine Ski Policy).

To this end, Kicking Horse Mountain Resort has been working to prepare a preliminary draft of a long term ski area improvement and expansion plan, and is sharing it this week with the community of Golden and the ski resort's employees via public presentations for discussion and review of the proposed plans.

“We see this as a uniquely appropriate time. Tourism is gaining positive momentum in the Kootenay’s, and KHMR is well positioned to participate in the process of drawing the attention of international clientele to the interior following the world wide exposure of the 2010 winter Olympics,” says Paccagnan.

Proposed plans include a destination resort that will be capable of sustaining the summer and winter activities that are needed for longer term overnight guests and local recreational enthusiasts. Kicking Horse Mountain Resort also proposes developing a signature 18-hole golf course to develop four-season business.

Kicking Horse Mountain Resort’s management team will be hosting two public open houses to solicit input and feedback from resort stakeholders and the local community. The events will take place Thursday from noon to 7 p.m. (presentations at 1 p.m. and 5 p.m.) at the British Columbia Visitor Centre in Golden, and Saturday from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. (presentation at 11 a.m.) at the Kicking Horse Mountain Resort Day Lodge. Everyone interested in the future development and growth of Kicking Horse Mountain Resort is welcome to attend.

The Draft Master Plan is posted on the government of British Columbia website at www.tsa.gov.bc.ca/resort_development/resort_plans/proposed_resort_plans.htm where the public is welcome to provide detailed feedback and input to the Province of British Columbia through to September 15th, 2008.
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 06:46 PM

I hope those KH expansions are done soon, because they look like they would really help the mountain out. It would be nice for people to not constantly have to ride the gondola.

I went up to Grouse Mountain today to check out the progress on the Courtesy/Peak chairs and the wind turbine. Unfortunately, the peak was closed due to blasting so I couldn't get up to see the turbine. There were no signs indicating the construction of the new chair lifts. No construction of a new Peak Chair was visible. However, they had removed the bottom station of the Paradise ropetow and the rope of the Courtesy tow. There was quite a bit of excavation for towers from the bottom of Paradise to near the top of the current courtesy ropetow. It seems ridiculously short. I just measured the future liftline on Google Earth, about 220m in length and 18m of vertical, for a quad chair! I asked the Grouse staff and they seemed to know little about the new Courtesy chair which is under construction. They said that they are installing a new Peak chair to serve the second phase of the new Zip Line activity at Grouse. Basically, they are going to run Zip Lines all the way up Dam Mountain next summer. The new Peak Chair will operate in summer for sightseers and the current Screaming Eagle will close in the summer. They had some portable construction offices up also. That is pretty much it though. Surprisingly no foundations, towers, chairs or station parts in sight.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 09:17 PM

View PostWBSKI, on Aug 12 2008, 10:46 PM, said:

Surprisingly no foundations, towers, chairs or station parts in sight.


It may take a while for grouse to receive their equipment seeing as though they were one of the last resorts to put in their order.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 11:19 AM

View PostWBSKI, on Aug 12 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

I hope those KH expansions are done soon, because they look like they would really help the mountain out. It would be nice for people to not constantly have to ride the gondola.

I went up to Grouse Mountain today to check out the progress on the Courtesy/Peak chairs and the wind turbine. Unfortunately, the peak was closed due to blasting so I couldn't get up to see the turbine. There were no signs indicating the construction of the new chair lifts. No construction of a new Peak Chair was visible. However, they had removed the bottom station of the Paradise ropetow and the rope of the Courtesy tow. There was quite a bit of excavation for towers from the bottom of Paradise to near the top of the current courtesy ropetow. It seems ridiculously short. I just measured the future liftline on Google Earth, about 220m in length and 18m of vertical, for a quad chair! I asked the Grouse staff and they seemed to know little about the new Courtesy chair which is under construction. They said that they are installing a new Peak chair to serve the second phase of the new Zip Line activity at Grouse. Basically, they are going to run Zip Lines all the way up Dam Mountain next summer. The new Peak Chair will operate in summer for sightseers and the current Screaming Eagle will close in the summer. They had some portable construction offices up also. That is pretty much it though. Surprisingly no foundations, towers, chairs or station parts in sight.



I've heard the Grouse lift is like 3 towers... they are having issues with finding construction labor from what I understand.

Also, Sounds like Marmot is looking to install in 09
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 02:08 PM

It looks like Smithers is getting a new quad next summer...

Written by Citizen staff
Tuesday, 23 September 2008

Skiers will be able to end their day on Smithers' Hudson Bay Mountain with a run from the top down to the very bottom and to within a short distance of the town's main street once a new "trail to town" is completed by the middle of next month.
The project, scheduled to be completed Oct. 17, will increase the vertical drop by 52 per cent to 1,150 metres (3,775 feet). Only the top 530 metres (1,750 feet) will be serviced by a ski lift but the mountain's marketing and events co-ordinator, Jamie Deba, predicts it will be put to good use.
"It's not lift access, it's a ski out at the end of the day," he said. "But for parents who want to drop off kids and pick them up in town at the end of the day, I think that's pretty neat."
The run will spill out on Zobnick Road, a four minute drive from Smithers' downtown, where a small parking lot and turn-around zone for buses will be built. As it stands, it's a 25 minute drive up the mountain to reach the bottom of the ski area.
The run's difficulty will include both beginner and intermediate areas, "and it's going to be groomed consistently so all ability levels will be able to ski it."
When the snow's gone, it will be open to mountain bikers and hikers, said Deba, who added it's among the first steps for the mountain's new ownership group. Future plans include a new quad chair lift, to go in next summer, connecting the bottom of the Lower Ptarmigan run to the main ski area and adding about 300 metres (1,000 feet) of run serviced by a chair lift.
As well, work on developing about 130 fully-serviced lots on the mountain will begin next summer, Deba said.
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Posted 26 September 2008 - 09:50 AM

Marmot Basin in Jasper has now confirmed they will be installing new L-Poma detach

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 01:37 PM

Got a big magazine from Vail today. It mentions...

"The new Chair 5, pending approval, is on tap for the 2009-10 season, with another lift in Sun Down at least 3 years away".

It also says the 2nd lift would go from the base of 5 to the top of Wildwood. Might keep the people happier who don't want a chair going way out to the left of 5.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:39 PM

Some other possible new lifts for 2009:

Yellowstone Club's new management said somewhere they will be completing the Eglise Mountain expansion with a gondola in the near future.

Crystal says on their website that the next 2 lifts to go in are Fixed Grip Quads for High Campbell and Bullion Basin: http://www.skicrystal.com/Press-Articles/2...w-for-2008-2009

A summary of the possibilities mentioned so far...

Crystal Mountain, WA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad High Campbell
Crystal Mountain, WA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Bullion Basin
Durango, CO Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Legends Express
Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
Hidden Valley, PA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad
Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
Red Mountain, BC Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Motherlode Express
Saddleback, ME Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Magolloway Express
Smithers, BC High Speed Quad
Steamboat, CO Leitner-Poma Pulse Gondola Gondola 2
Sugarloaf, ME Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Gondola
Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Kadenwood
Yellowstone Club, MT Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Eglise Gondola
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Posted 29 September 2008 - 08:29 PM

View PostSkier, on Sep 29 2008, 04:39 PM, said:

Some other possible new lifts for 2009:

Yellowstone Club's new management said somewhere they will be completing the Eglise Mountain expansion with a gondola in the near future.

Crystal says on their website that the next 2 lifts to go in are Fixed Grip Quads for High Campbell and Bullion Basin: http://www.skicrystal.com/Press-Articles/2...w-for-2008-2009

A summary of the possibilities mentioned so far...

Crystal Mountain, WA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad High Campbell
Crystal Mountain, WA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad Bullion Basin
Durango, CO Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Legends Express
Eaglecrest, AK Used Double Mid Mountain
Hidden Valley, PA Doppelmayr CTEC Quad
Holiday Valley, NY Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Morningside Express
Marmot Basin, AB Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Tranquilizer Express
Red Mountain, BC Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Motherlode Express
Saddleback, ME Doppelmayr CTEC High Speed Quad Magolloway Express
Smithers, BC High Speed Quad
Steamboat, CO Leitner-Poma Pulse Gondola Gondola 2
Sugarloaf, ME Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Gondola
Whistler Blackcomb, BC Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Kadenwood
Yellowstone Club, MT Doppelmayr CTEC Gondola 8 Eglise Gondola


Does the Pulse Gondola listed for Steamboat refer to the lift running between One Steamboat Place (the new courtyard) and Wildhorse Meadows? Surprised it's only a double and not a quad. And where's the new gondola going at Sugarloaf?

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 08:29 PM

View Postskier2, on Sep 29 2008, 08:29 PM, said:

Does the Pulse Gondola listed for Steamboat refer to the lift running between One Steamboat Place (the new courtyard) and Wildhorse Meadows? Surprised it's only a double and not a quad.


Yes, and the 2 was referring to the name, not the cabin capacity.
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Posted 29 September 2008 - 08:35 PM

Also lists the Tram at Crystal Mountain. Does that list mean its a start in 09?
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Posted 29 September 2008 - 08:43 PM

View PostBill, on Sep 29 2008, 09:35 PM, said:

Also lists the Tram at Crystal Mountain. Does that list mean its a start in 09?


It doesn't say anything about a timeframe. I don't personally believe that a tram will ever be built at Crystal, but who knows.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:44 AM

View Postskier2, on Sep 29 2008, 10:29 PM, said:

Does the Pulse Gondola listed for Steamboat refer to the lift running between One Steamboat Place (the new courtyard) and Wildhorse Meadows?

It won't be ending on the new courtyard anymore because there isn't enough room for a detachable gondola station. SSRC is going to be funding part of the gondola now to make it a detachable, as opposed to a pulse. they plan on using that larger capacity to eliminate shuttle busses from the meadows parking lot & support future development on their adjacent properties. Also this new gondola won't be built in 2009. it will be 2010 at the soonest

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 06:34 PM

View Posttrooper1556, on Oct 1 2008, 07:44 AM, said:

It won't be ending on the new courtyard anymore because there isn't enough room for a detachable gondola station. SSRC is going to be funding part of the gondola now to make it a detachable, as opposed to a pulse. they plan on using that larger capacity to eliminate shuttle busses from the meadows parking lot & support future development on their adjacent properties. Also this new gondola won't be built in 2009. it will be 2010 at the soonest

Is the replacement of Thunderhead with HSS and relocation of the existing HSQ Thunderhead to replace the FGQ Elkhead project off, or are they still considering this for sometime within the next couple of seasons?
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Posted 02 October 2008 - 07:01 PM

Wow that's a pretty grim future for L-P. I think that you can go ahead and put High Noon Express up on the list for now. I can't tell whether it would be a HSQ or HSS.
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Posted 02 October 2008 - 07:49 PM

View Postskierdude9450, on Oct 2 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

Wow that's a pretty grim future for L-P. I think that you can go ahead and put High Noon Express up on the list for now. I can't tell whether it would be a HSQ or HSS.

As compared to last year...

Now that 2008 is a little bit closer, anyone have any news to report? Here are lifts that I have read at least something official about:

Brian Head, UT DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Giant Steps Express
Gore Mountain, NY DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Burnt Ridge Express
Jackson Hole, BC DoppelmayrCTEC 100 Passenger Tram Tram
Kirkwood, CA DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Sunrise Express
Kirkwood, CA DoppelmayrCTEC Caples Crest
Mt. Baker, WA DoppelmayrCTEC Quad Chair 1
Whistler Blackcomb, BC DoppelmayrCTEC Tri Cable Gondola Peak to Peak
Whistler Blackcomb, BC DoppelmayrCTEC Cabriolet Timing Flats
Whistler Blackcomb, BC DoppelmayrCTEC Gondola 8 Kadenwood
Whiteface, NY DoppelmayrCTEC Triple Lookout Mountain
Mount Revelstoke, BC Leitner-Poma Gondola 8 2
Mount Revelstoke, BC Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad 18
Mount Revelstoke, BC Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad 11
Winter Park, CO Leitner-Poma High Speed Six Zephyr Express
Crystal Mountain, WA Used Double Bullion Basin
Poley Mountain Used Triple
Big Sky, MT Liberty Bowl


Don't put too much into these early season predictions.
I would be more concerned with:
1) How much snow are we going to get and when?
2) Will the state of the economy support the coming ski season, or will we ALL be in the tank?

Lifts will be added and subtracted by Skier as the months progress.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 06:11 AM

View Postboardski, on Oct 2 2008, 08:34 PM, said:

Is the replacement of Thunderhead with HSS and relocation of the existing HSQ Thunderhead to replace the FGQ Elkhead project off, or are they still considering this for sometime within the next couple of seasons?

It is still being considered, but not as much of a priority as SSRC senior management made it seem a year ago.





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