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[skierdude9450]

Whistler's Village Gondola I think has two different ropes and drives. It seems like it would be very hard to keep the ropes going at exactly the same speed.

[Lift Kid]

skierdude9450, on Apr 3 2007, 09:43 PM, said:

Whistler's Village Gondola I think has two different ropes and drives. It seems like it would be very hard to keep the ropes going at exactly the same speed.

So does Telluride's Gondola. It is two gondolas that have a chain cadence system that takes the cabins back and forth between gondolas. It is really slow. Inside the top terminal, there are two "skeletons" of gondola terminals. There is a rail on both sides that has the chain attached to it.

[bhb399mm]

Lift Kid, on Apr 4 2007, 05:46 AM, said:

So does Telluride's Gondola.

as does ours at Mammoth - we can run the lower and upper gondola's completely separate from eachother

[Jonni]

The Skyeship Express also is a great example of this at Killington, VT. Here's Killington's Skilifts.org page: http://www.skilifts....killington.html

[Peter]

Excalibur at Blackcomb is a turn with 2 gondolas as one also.

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[poloxskier]

Skiing#1, on Apr 3 2007, 02:29 PM, said:

Poloxshier,

Really? I thought the angle station have two terminals and two ropes between bottom/middle and middle/top since see the picture that two terminals are together connection. Because I rode and I felt the chair was swinging and chair was moved slow after the first terminal get the chair off the rope and make chairs slow down and move them forward to other terminal (it looks like transfer) and it speed the chairs up and go up to the mountain.

Skier is correct.

As stated above, I have not ridden this lift so I was not certain about its set up, so I did not present the way I thought that that lift was set up as fact. The vast majority of high speed chairs with mid stations are single rope instalations, and as such the mid station is not concidered to be a terminal as lifts with only one rope only have two terminals, top and bottom. The definition of a terminal is a station where the haul rope turns more than 150 degrees.

This post has been edited by poloxskier: 05 April 2007 - 05:02 PM

[Skiing#1]

I found one video from the webiste. its ski dome and in Ski Dubai. The video showed mid-load area. I am amazing to see how it works.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=RU1MGE3vr3k

This post has been edited by Skiing#1: 17 April 2007 - 07:38 AM

[Ontariodude]

Le Massif, Quebec has a mid loading station on the Mailard Express. In images under Le Massif, I have a pic posted of the station. We used it frequently and was super nifty.

Will T. (ontariodude)

[ceo]

Skiing#1, on Apr 17 2007, 11:37 AM, said:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=RU1MGE3vr3k

I don't think that's the video you meant to post. It's pretty funny though (but I bet the industry folks here will vehemently disagree).

[liftmech]

It's all funny until someone loses an eye- or falls off the lift, or maims himself... Just as a disinterested observer, though, definitely funny. Glad we don't have any midstations, especially those that operate in the summer.

[Skiing#1]

I found the video on the mid-station. I wonder how do one chair turn around and others stay staright up the mountain work?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T4r3m-VLevI

[Snoqualmie guy]

Skier, on Apr 5 2007, 05:09 PM, said:

Excalibur at Blackcomb is a turn with 2 gondolas as one also.

What is the point of having two gondolas there? Why not just have one that spanned the whole line?

[Peter]

Because they can run the two independently. For example, I believe they run the lower section from the Whistler Village to the midstation where their Tube Park is in the evenings. The cabins are just turned around there without going all the way up and down Blackcomb.

[skierdude9450]

Skiing#1, on May 9 2008, 10:31 PM, said:

I found the video on the mid-station. I wonder how do one chair turn around and others stay staright up the mountain work?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T4r3m-VLevI

That's the six-pack Bollin-Fresse at Tignes in France. It's a double-loading 6-pack at the bottom, and half of the chairs (Bollin) only go up to the mid-station and then turn around with 90 degree unloading. The other half (Fresse) go to the top station and are on the full line. It's a pretty clever system, but it doesn't make much sense that only half of the chairs go to the top. Here's the discussion (in French) on r-m.net: http://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/forums...c=320&st=60 There's plenty of good pictures.

[Skiing#1]

Skiing#1, on Apr 17 2007, 09:37 AM, said:

I found one video from the webiste. its ski dome and in Ski Dubai. The video showed mid-load area. I am amazing to see how it works.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=RU1MGE3vr3k

After I read what liftmech and ceo said about the video. OOPS!!! I laughed!!! Two men got off the lift at the mid-station and ran round back to the same seat except one man missed it. That is off topic or subject. LOL.

I looked and found right ones.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SBQaJmcqadU

Also T-bar has turns, too. Very interesting.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ZHu0zeMx1M

[SuperRat]

SkiBachelor, on Apr 3 2007, 08:25 PM, said:

Well, computer technology has increased dramatically within the last few years making it easier to do.

True. Jonni mentioned the Killington Skye Ship, a modern (1994) Poma detachable, but don't forget the original 1969 Killington Gondola. It was comprised of three lifts that could be run separately or linked together by angled mid-stations and run as one. It didn't have any terminal conveyors, the cabins were pushed through by lift attendants and launched manually.

[Andoman]

Skiing#1, on Jun 2 2008, 11:09 AM, said:

After I read what liftmech and ceo said about the video. OOPS!!! I laughed!!! Two men got off the lift at the mid-station and ran round back to the same seat except one man missed it. That is off topic or subject. LOL.

I looked and found right ones.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SBQaJmcqadU

Also T-bar has turns, too. Very interesting.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ZHu0zeMx1M

WOW!!! how stink'in slow is that chair?? It looked like the t-bar was lapping the chairlift. It looks about as bad as skiing in michigan (it's a lot like a roller coaster line) 30 seconds on the run, 15 minutes in the line, and 4 minutes on the lift.

[hyak.net]

Here is a photo of the old Dinosaur mid-station Murray-Latta lift from the 1960's. Check out the folks unloading left as riders are arriving to the right. I wonder how many collisions there were of people unloading into people arriving the other direction? They had a ramp down each side of the terminal area for unloading only both directions.

This post has been edited by hyak.net: 03 June 2008 - 06:51 PM

[liftmech]

That was certainly a trip, especially at night I don't think I ever unloaded as people were coming up from the other side, but one still had to avoid running into chairs. Near the end of the operation I believe they put up a dividing wall between the two sides.