Apsen Lifts
skierdude9450
15 Aug 2007
Performance? Falcon terminals w/ bottom tension and vault drive?
Lift Kid
16 Aug 2007
I think they are also known as Performance terminals, but I'm not sure!
skiersage
16 Aug 2007
The old Ajax Express was similar the the old Summit Express at Winter Park. It had an alpha/falcon style drive, not a vault. Something that can also be noted was that it rotated in the opposite direction of the current lift. You can kind see what it looked like if you look at the Campground lift at Snowmass as it uses the original tower heads, sheave trains, and drive terminal from the Ajax Express.
liftmech
17 Aug 2007
some clarification:
Several years ago I referred to the older Poma detachables as 'Falcon' lifts because the only reference I had was off my parts sheet. It listed the charriers as 'Falcon' style and I extended that name to the entire lift. The Alpha terminal was already in use on fixed-grips, so we started calling the combined lift the Alpha/Falcon. I've since been corrected by Poma's service department that the actual name of that series of lifts, whether Alpha-drive or vault, are called Performance. The Competition lifts are the next model, such as Beaver Run or the Eagle.
Several years ago I referred to the older Poma detachables as 'Falcon' lifts because the only reference I had was off my parts sheet. It listed the charriers as 'Falcon' style and I extended that name to the entire lift. The Alpha terminal was already in use on fixed-grips, so we started calling the combined lift the Alpha/Falcon. I've since been corrected by Poma's service department that the actual name of that series of lifts, whether Alpha-drive or vault, are called Performance. The Competition lifts are the next model, such as Beaver Run or the Eagle.
skisox34
30 Aug 2007
How many Performance series lifts are still in use?? I know that the peak 10 detach at breck is one (albeit with new carriers.) Any others??
Jonni
30 Aug 2007
I think that the Adirondack Express at Gore and the Snowlite Express at Hunter use this design, but I'm not sure. I'm not that savvy on NY lifts.
Peter
30 Aug 2007
Yes, the one at Hunter does but the Adirondack Express is totally different.
liftmech
31 Aug 2007
skisox34, on Aug 30 2007, 11:06 AM, said:
How many Performance series lifts are still in use?? I know that the peak 10 detach at breck is one (albeit with new carriers.) Any others??
Off the top of my head:
American Flyer (Copper)
Falcon, Colorado (Breckenridge)
Pioneer (Winter Park)
Siberia (Squaw Valley)
Chair 2/Liberator (Mission Ridge)
Snowlight Express (Hunter)
Shirley Lake at Squaw was one as well, it's been torn down and I haven't heard if it's going back up somewhere else. Aside from Colorado and the Flyer, all of these have the Alpha drive terminal.
skiersage
31 Aug 2007
There is also Coney Glade at snowmass that uses a "performance" terminal with an alpha drive. It is kinda funny because coney has a bottom drive where as most of the other ones I have seen are top drive. There is also the big burn lift but that one is different compared to other competition lifts.
The Silver Queen gondola at aspen has a performance terminal too but the actual performance terminal skin is only on the outside part of the terminal.
The Silver Queen gondola at aspen has a performance terminal too but the actual performance terminal skin is only on the outside part of the terminal.
liftmech
01 Sep 2007
Big Burn looks like the Performance style as well, although the drive terminal has everything integrated into one unit instead of under or behind it. I forgot about Coney Glade

Ryan
13 Oct 2007
Snowmass....over big burn
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Ryan
13 Oct 2007
The silver queen
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Kicking Horse
14 Oct 2007
I have some of the old Ajax Express. When My desktop and server get in Greece I will post the pics that I have of hte old Ajax.