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skierdude9450's Photo skierdude9450 15 Aug 2007

Performance? Falcon terminals w/ bottom tension and vault drive?
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Lift Kid's Photo Lift Kid 16 Aug 2007

I think they are also known as Performance terminals, but I'm not sure!
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skiersage's Photo skiersage 16 Aug 2007

The old Ajax Express was similar the the old Summit Express at Winter Park. It had an alpha/falcon style drive, not a vault. Something that can also be noted was that it rotated in the opposite direction of the current lift. You can kind see what it looked like if you look at the Campground lift at Snowmass as it uses the original tower heads, sheave trains, and drive terminal from the Ajax Express.
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liftmech's Photo liftmech 17 Aug 2007

some clarification:
Several years ago I referred to the older Poma detachables as 'Falcon' lifts because the only reference I had was off my parts sheet. It listed the charriers as 'Falcon' style and I extended that name to the entire lift. The Alpha terminal was already in use on fixed-grips, so we started calling the combined lift the Alpha/Falcon. I've since been corrected by Poma's service department that the actual name of that series of lifts, whether Alpha-drive or vault, are called Performance. The Competition lifts are the next model, such as Beaver Run or the Eagle.
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skisox34's Photo skisox34 30 Aug 2007

How many Performance series lifts are still in use?? I know that the peak 10 detach at breck is one (albeit with new carriers.) Any others??
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Jonni's Photo Jonni 30 Aug 2007

I think that the Adirondack Express at Gore and the Snowlite Express at Hunter use this design, but I'm not sure. I'm not that savvy on NY lifts.
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Peter's Photo Peter 30 Aug 2007

Yes, the one at Hunter does but the Adirondack Express is totally different.
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liftmech's Photo liftmech 31 Aug 2007

View Postskisox34, on Aug 30 2007, 11:06 AM, said:

How many Performance series lifts are still in use?? I know that the peak 10 detach at breck is one (albeit with new carriers.) Any others??


Off the top of my head:
American Flyer (Copper)
Falcon, Colorado (Breckenridge)
Pioneer (Winter Park)
Siberia (Squaw Valley)
Chair 2/Liberator (Mission Ridge)
Snowlight Express (Hunter)

Shirley Lake at Squaw was one as well, it's been torn down and I haven't heard if it's going back up somewhere else. Aside from Colorado and the Flyer, all of these have the Alpha drive terminal.
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skiersage's Photo skiersage 31 Aug 2007

There is also Coney Glade at snowmass that uses a "performance" terminal with an alpha drive. It is kinda funny because coney has a bottom drive where as most of the other ones I have seen are top drive. There is also the big burn lift but that one is different compared to other competition lifts.
The Silver Queen gondola at aspen has a performance terminal too but the actual performance terminal skin is only on the outside part of the terminal.
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SkiBachelor's Photo SkiBachelor 31 Aug 2007

There is also another Performance terminal at Bromont.
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liftmech's Photo liftmech 01 Sep 2007

Big Burn looks like the Performance style as well, although the drive terminal has everything integrated into one unit instead of under or behind it. I forgot about Coney Glade :blush:
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skisox34's Photo skisox34 04 Sep 2007

Okay cool thanks!
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Ryan's Photo Ryan 13 Oct 2007

Snowmass....over big burn

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Ryan's Photo Ryan 13 Oct 2007

The silver queen

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poloxskier's Photo poloxskier 13 Oct 2007

That gondola just doesnt look right without "Les Oeufs"
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Kicking Horse's Photo Kicking Horse 14 Oct 2007

I have some of the old Ajax Express. When My desktop and server get in Greece I will post the pics that I have of hte old Ajax.
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