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[SkiBachelor]

I would say Vail is unknown, but A-Basin seems to be brand loyal.

[skierdude9450]

If anyone is brand loyal of those two I'd say it would be Vail. They had two different contracts with Poma. (Pete's was built a year later.) With A-Basin, it's too hard to tell, but I would suspect that they would go with LP.

Now this is , but I seem to remember that LP was going to start using Leitner grips and line gear. Is this true?

[SkiBachelor]

As far as I know about the Leitner grips, that's still the plan.

Vail Resorts still buys lifts from both companies. Doppelmayr CTEC for Heavenly, Beaver Creek and Keystone (except for Ruby which was a bulk order lift), while Leitner-POMA for Breckenridge and Vail.

[random_ski_guy]

Skier, on Feb 18 2007, 04:00 PM, said:

Here is the master plan

thanks, but this map doesn't quite correspond with the info at the mtn website;

http://www.bridgerbo...xtras/whatsnew/

In late August we learned the Peruvian double chair lift at Snowbird was on the market. The board agreed to purchase the lift at the September board meeting. The current plan is to recondition the lift (a 1976 Doppelmayr double chair) and install it in the Slushman's area the summer of 2008. The proposed lift alignment will provide lift access to expert terrain. Vertical will be 1700 feet (400 feet more than Bridger Lift) and slope length about 3800 feet. We anticipate that the lift will terminate approximately 100 feet below the ridge line. If all goes as planned in 2008 we also hope to install a new lift to the North Meadow area to improve access on the North side of the mountain and provide some help to the old Alpine lift.


meanwhile the masterplan map shows the Slushman's lift as rather short (S-1 appears to be well short of the 1700ft vertical mentioned) and falling well below the ridge line (vs 100ft below). it would be nice to find the map the correlates to the mtn website as it looks like a 'plan b' was adopted.

[SkiBachelor]

Brundage Ski Resort, ID just released plans today of building two new lifts this summer, both fixed grip triples by Doppelmayr CTEC.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/index.php...le&sid=1744

Chairlift Facts:
http://www.brundage....-fastfacts.aspx

[SkiBachelor]

Mt. Ashland has plans of installing the C-6 lift this summer, but things are once again delayed as an appeal was just brought up.

http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/articles/2007...b2052635715.txt

[liftdirector]

Sno Mountain in Pa is looking at putting in a high speed quad detach for 2007.

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[RideBurton]

skier,

do by chance have any more information on the new lift going in Bridger Bowl?

[Peter]

The Slushman's Lift will be to looker's left of the current area, and is a Doppelmayr double from Snowbird, Utah. The current Deer Park lift is slated to be replaced by a new fixed grip triple, with the top terminal being moved down the hill. The Bridger lift is slated to be replaced with a Triple with the same alignment. Then the Alpine Lift will be removed and replaced with two triples, one on each side of the current Alpine. Then the Northwest Passage triple will go in on the right of the current area. Finally, two surface lifts are planned, one above Slushman's to the ridge and the other above Northwest Passage to the ridge.

[SkiBachelor]

Sun Valley unveiled plans today to build its new River Run gondola in 2008.

The gondola will have CWA cabins and each cabin will cost $35,000 (EXPENSIVE), which is up $10,000 from nine years ago.

http://www.sunvalleyonline.com/news/articl...ID_Article=3125

[Peter]

It is not the Warm Springs Gondola, but the River Run Gondola. I am surprised they are even considering Leitner-Poma.

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[skierdude9450]

Let's see what Keystone will say about River Run Gondola. According to their map, it's a registered trademark. I'm not surprised that they're considering L-P. They've never even purchased an entire lift from Dopp, just parts for retrofitting their Yan HSQs. So, they're just probably bid hunting.

[Peter]

Don't forget Snowbasin is the same guy, and he bought 4 Doppelmayr lifts there.

[floridaskier]

skierdude9450, on Feb 27 2007, 11:38 PM, said:

Let's see what Keystone will say about River Run Gondola. According to their map, it's a registered trademark. I'm not surprised that they're considering L-P. They've never even purchased an entire lift from Dopp, just parts for retrofitting their Yan HSQs. So, they're just probably bid hunting.

Keystone also has Summit Express (everywhere) and Ruby Express (at DV) trademarked. But the higher-profile gondola at Sun Valley might not make them happy
As for who's building it, Sun Valley ownership loves Doppelmayr so much they put fake Uni-M terminal skins on all the older triple chairs at Snowbasin

[Lift Dinosaur]

They've never even purchased an entire lift from Dopp, just parts for retrofitting their Yan HSQs. So, they're just probably bid hunting.

How about Summit Express?

Bid Hunting? When there are only 2 choices, why not see what each offers?

[skier14]

Skier, on Feb 27 2007, 07:00 PM, said:

It is not the Warm Springs Gondola, but the River Run Gondola. I am surprised they are even considering Leitner-Poma.

Im shocked LP is considered, but earl holding has been really cheap on his projects lately. If LP can put in a significantly cheaper bid earl would take it.

[lastchair_44]

I've heard really good things about the new gondi at Breck....they are sharp looking machines and very efficient.

[Peter]

This could happen this summer?

From: Blaise Carrig
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:41 PM
To: All-Heavenly
Cc: Bill Jensen; Robert Katz
Subject: FW: Update on Heavenly Master Plan


I wanted to let you all know that the TRPA Governing Board approved the 2006 Heavenly Master Plan Amendment including Alternative 4 to replace the Olympic and North Bowl lifts with one direct, high-speed, detachable quad. The alternative also allows for the glading of trails S9 and S10, and doesn't allow for any trees over 24" dbh to be taken from S10.

The Governing Board went back-and-forth on the alternatives, but ultimately went with the recommendation of TRPA staff and the USDA Forest Service, as well as the unanimous endorsement of the TRPA Advisory Planning Committee. It was the right decision, with the greatest positive impact for the environment as well as for our skiers and riders.

We're very proud of the work we've done over the last five years to collaborate with the regulatory agencies and come up with an incredibly strong environmental document and a sound Master Plan. This plan will carry Heavenly into the upper echelon of destination resorts while protecting and enhancing the environment.

Please let me know if you have any questions; I'd be happy to go into more detail on the particulars of the plan.

Blaise Carrig
COO / Senior Vice President
Heavenly Mountain Resort

[tahoeistruckin]

here's is the story from today's Tahoe Trib. I'll keep watching this seeing how i live a hop skip and a jump from Boulder Lodge.
Heavenly master plan narrowly approved by agency board


Adam Jensen, ajensen@tahoedailytribune.com
March 1, 2007

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Environmental groups came painfully close to seeing the defeat of the alternative that they've said will unnecessarily destroy old-growth trees by allowing the development of a high-speed quad to bisect a stand in the Nevada Woods area of Heavenly.

Alternative 4 did not pass its first vote, garnering only eight "yes" votes initially. Five "yes" votes were required from Nevada representatives and nine total "yes" votes needed for any alternative to pass.

Board members Coe Swobe, Norma Santiago and Chuck Ruthe expressed concern over the red fir trees, considered old growth by environmental groups, but not by the TRPA or the U.S. Forest Service.

TRPA's Executive Director John Singlaub drew jeers from several in the crowd when he tried to ease board members' fears about the status of the stand in question.

"If we had an old-growth forest, there would be no way we'd be cutting trees," said Singlaub. "We are talking basically about cutting big trees."

The turning point in the decision-making process came when board member Steve Merrill found no support for Alternative 5 among other board members.

Lacking the support needed to pass his preferred alternative, Merrill switched his preference from 5 to 4, allowing the passage of the alternative by a single vote.

Disappointment was palpable among representatives of basin environmental groups after the emotionally-charged decision.

"The TRPA has essentially abandoned its role as an environmental protector and assigned itself the task of promoting the economic development of the basin," said Rochelle Nason, executive director for the League to Save Lake Tahoe.

Heavenly officials were pleased with the board's decision to approve Alternative 4. Blaise Carrig, chief operating officer for Heavenly Mountain Resort, applauded the decision and thanked all of the agencies involved for their work on the project.

"This really helps chart the course of Heavenly for the next 10 years," Carrig said.


What's Next:

The Governing Board's decision will allow a number of other projects besides the new high speed quad in the North Bowl, to proceed in 2007. Included in these projects are the grading of skyline trail, the addition of several new ski runs, the construction of a new lodge near the top of Powderbowl Express, the removal of Sky Deck, the construction of 3.1 miles of new hiking trails, the addition of a zip-line near the top of the Gondola, 2.7 miles of cross-country and snowshoe trails and the expansion of snow-making operations.



"We do believe there is more risk to the watershed in 4 than 4A. We have absolutely minimized the trees removed along the lift line."

-- Andrew Strain, vice president of planning and governmental affairs for Heavenly Mountain Resort


"Angle lifts are very, very, rarely built. They are the bane of our industry."

-- Bob Roberts, executive director of the California Ski Industry Association



"It's tough to get through the perception that this decision-making process lacks credibility. Only you can give the process credibility. I hope you will."

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[Peter]

"Angle lifts are very, very, rarely built. They are the bane of our industry."

-- Bob Roberts, executive director of the California Ski Industry Association

Bane: noun 1. a person or thing that ruins or spoils: Gambling was the bane of his existence.
2. a deadly poison (often used in combination, as in the names of poisonous plants): wolfsbane; henbane.
3. death; destruction; ruin.
4. Obsolete. that which causes death or destroys life: entrapped and drowned beneath the watery bane.

Hmmm.. not sure about that. I am pretty sure Alta's angle lift was applauded by the industry.