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#201 nathanvg

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 04:39 AM

I sure hope they don't add a sun down lift. Sun down bowl is one of the best areas because it doesn't have a lift. Less people, better snow and natural. They can express sun up if they like, or send a lift over to blue ski from the base of lift 5, but I really hope they don't mess with sun down bowl.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 06:30 AM

I'm quite glad that Lutsen might install some HS chairs. After Saturday's crowd, I see why they need it. Caribou and Bull lifts are both really long too. :rolleyes: The gondola could easily be replaced by a detachable 6 place or even 8 place. There really are enough people. That is a really long ride too.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:32 AM

I'm all for a chair 5 replacement. I've waited in the 45-60 minute line far too many times. As for a Sun Down lift, I have mixed feelings. (Is this FGQ or HSQ?) It would be good because you have to go to chair 3 after chair 5, but secret stashes like Never and the trees (I forgot the neme) won't be secret anymore.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 03:37 PM

View PostSkier, on Jan 28 2007, 01:41 PM, said:

SkiPhreak, many of those lifts are only rumors. Here are the confirmed ones:

1 Arapahoe Basin, Colorado Leitner-Poma Quad Montezuma Bowl
2 Big Mountain, Montana Used High Speed Quad Swift Creek Express
3 Big Mountain, Montana DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Glacier Chaser Express
4 Brian Head, Utah DoppelmayrCTEC ??
5 (Likely) Burke Mountain, Vermont Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Willoughby Express
6 Crystal Mountain, Washington DoppelmayrCTEC Double Northway
7 Cypress Mountain, British Columbia Used Quad Olympic Chair
8 Cypress Mountain, British Columbia DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Sunrise Express
9 Deer Valley, Utah DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad
10 Lookout Pass, Idaho Used Double Northstar
11 Loon Mountain, New Hampshire DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Lincoln Express
12 Loon Mountain, New Hampshire DoppelmayrCTEC Quad Tote Road
13 Mad River Glen, Vermont DoppelmayrCTEC Single Single Chair
14 Magic Mountain, Vermont Used Quad Beginner
15 Mammoth Mountain, California DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Chair 9 Express
16 Mammoth Mountain, California DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Chair 5 Express
17 Mount Baldy, British Columbia Leitner-Poma Quad Sugarlump
18 Mount Revelstoke, British Columbia Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Summit Express
19 Mount Revelstoke, British Columbia Leitner-Poma 8 Passenger Gondola Gondola
20 Red Resort, British Columbia DoppelmayrCTEC Quad Silverlode
21 Snowmass, Colorado Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Elk Meadows Express
22 Timberline, Oregon DoppelmayrCTEC High Speed Quad Hydro Express
23 (Likely) Vail, Colorado Leitner-Poma High Speed Quad Lionshead Express
24 Winter Park, Colorado Leitner-Poma High Speed Six Timberline Express

Wolf Laurel's Double is confirmed, for it is on the current trailmap.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 04:04 PM

Looks like the Yellowstone Club will be getting another new lift this summer, but part of it will actually be inside a mansion ($150,000,000) to make getting to the slopes even easier.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/at-200m-t...9919304886.html
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 04:28 PM

View PostSkiBachelor, on Jan 29 2007, 05:04 PM, said:

Looks like the Yellowstone Club will be getting another new lift this summer, but part of it will actually be inside a mansion ($150,000,000) to make getting to the slopes even easier.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/at-200m-t...9919304886.html

It's absolutely ridiculous that there is a market for that sort of thing. I wonder if a house like that is bought by a corporation, or an individual.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 09:45 PM

This is far from official or confirmed, but it looks like the peak to peak will be started this spring. Also looking as if the Kadenwood pulse gondola and the detach cabriolet at creekside will go this summer as well. If the P2P goes we have to shorten Solar Coaster and Catskinner and we also have a major upgrade planned for Wizard. Suddenly this summer looks very busy.
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 09:47 PM

Plus cabin replacement on the Whistler Village gondola? Will there be glacier skiing this summer?
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 10:12 AM

The Whistler Village gondola will be getting a lot of mechanical gear replaced this year. Cabins are slated for next year. Assuming the P2P happens, we will use Excalibur/Excelerator/Glacier Express for Summer ops. Fingers crossed it all happens. :thumbsup:
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:47 PM

Where would the cabriolet run at Creekside? and what about the Kadenwood pulse? I just want to get a picture in my mind about where they're going to be... :tongue:

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:08 PM

Cabriolet goes to Timing Flats, the development up to the left on the way up Creekside Gondola.

Cypress is having a really busy summer too.

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:32 PM

I made a little map of the expansions at Creekside...

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#213 Peter

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 12:33 PM

Here is another one for 2007!

Spruce Lake Quad Chair for 2007-08 season!

Holiday Valley's President and General Manager, Dennis eshbaugh announced that Holiday Valley will be installing a new chairlift to service the new Spruce Lake trails. The 2900' quad chair will be manufactured by Doppelmayr CTEC of Salt Lake City, Utah.

The Holiday Valley Mountain Crew will be installing the lift during the 2007 summer and the lift will be in operation for the 2007-08 winter season. The base of the lift will be located adjacent to the existing Tannenbaum Express Quad and the lift will terminate at Spruce Lake at the western boundary of Holiday Valley. The three beautiful tree lined beginner to intermediate level slopes that will be serviced by the lift were cut in the 2006 summer during construction of Spruce Lake, a 62 million gallon reservoir used for snowmaking.
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 04:34 PM

View Postskisox34, on Jan 18 2007, 12:17 PM, said:

I heard a rumor at Sugarbush that there is an investor who wants to string a gondola back up at south. (sorry, lincoln peak is the new buzz word.) Won't happen next year but just something I heard. That would be good if that happened though! Something about making it a 4 season resort with gondy rides to the summit.

That's just crazy talk. First of all, SB has a pretty solid investor group as it is, headed by Win Smith (he's the "Smith" in a little securities firm called Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith). They aren't likely looking for a new investor to come in, let alone one who would be making a decision like that. Second, this ownership group is acutely aware of the important balance between uphill and downhill capacity. There are four options at the top of South, only one of which is for intermediates. In short, the place would be mobbed with both a gondi and the Heaven's Gate triple offloading up there. Someone is yanking your chain.

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 09:39 AM

View PostTin Woodsman, on Feb 7 2007, 04:34 PM, said:

That's just crazy talk. First of all, SB has a pretty solid investor group as it is, headed by Win Smith (he's the "Smith" in a little securities firm called Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith). They aren't likely looking for a new investor to come in, let alone one who would be making a decision like that. Second, this ownership group is acutely aware of the important balance between uphill and downhill capacity. There are four options at the top of South, only one of which is for intermediates. In short, the place would be mobbed with both a gondi and the Heaven's Gate triple offloading up there. Someone is yanking your chain.


Yes but knowing this they could do more space between cabins and possibly only a 4 person gondola. They have done this on the GMX and North Ridge chairs at north. How many people have looked up the old gondi line and though how nice it would be to have it again? I know I have!
In my opinion, would it happen, probably not, but it would give an option when Super Bravo goes down, which it has been known to do.

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 07:44 AM

View Postskisox34, on Feb 8 2007, 12:39 PM, said:

Yes but knowing this they could do more space between cabins and possibly only a 4 person gondola. They have done this on the GMX and North Ridge chairs at north. How many people have looked up the old gondi line and though how nice it would be to have it again? I know I have!
In my opinion, would it happen, probably not, but it would give an option when Super Bravo goes down, which it has been known to do.

It would be ridiculous to expect Summit Ventures to spend the $8-10MM necessary for a 2400' vert 4 person gondola. You'd end up overcrowding the Heaven's Gate pod badly, degenerating into a Killington-esque experience. That is antithetical to their stated approach.

Moreover, if Bravo goes down, there are already two alternatives - Valley House and Gate House. You can use either one to access the upper mountain. When VH gets extended to the base and upgraded to a triple in a couple years, that back-up capability will be even more robust.

Oh - one more thing. SB would have a VERY difficult time siting the summit terminal on top of the actual ridge up there. That's why Heaven's Gate is not at the actual summit - USFS wasn't a fan. This whole idea is a pipe dream that isn't even a good idea int he first place.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 10:21 PM

Seven Springs Ski Area in Pennsylvania will begin installing its second high-speed six-pack in April of 2007. The lift will be a Doppelmayr CTEC UNI-GS with an estimated cost of $3 million.

http://www.post-gaze.../760609-287.stm
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 11:16 PM

Northstar has plans of removing both the Arrow and Comstock high-speed quads and replacing them with a single high-speed lift. The project is currently waiting for approval, but could happen as soon as this summer, which Northstar is hoping for. If not, the new will be installing the following summer.

Northstar has plans of installing a second detachable on the backside of Northstar, but this project has been delayed.

http://www.sierrasun...7/NEWS/70206013

Does anyone know if Northstar will reuse these two detachable quads or sell them? In the article, it says that new terminals will be purchased and that the proposed backside lift will also be a new HSQ.

It might not be a bad idea to replace Bear Paw with Arrow, especially if it's only 13 years old.

I personally feel the current setup is better than the proposed one since it keeps the beginner skiers on the Arrow Express and more advanced skiers on Comstock Express. By making both lifts into one means it's going to be one heck of a long ride to get to the top with beginners having trouble loading and unloading the lift.
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Posted 12 February 2007 - 08:23 AM

View PostSkiBachelor, on Feb 12 2007, 02:16 AM, said:

Does anyone know if Northstar will reuse these two detachable quads or sell them?

Or keep them in the family...

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 02:06 PM

Hmm, maybe they will come up to Snoqualmie. That would be great, Hyak needs one, as well as Alpental.
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