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[KZ]

Next is the "New Lodge" area (canyon lodge)

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[KZ]

The "Cornice" map (the summit area)

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[KZ]

and last is the "Backside Area" (Chair's 13 and 14)

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[floridaskier]

who else here collects old trail maps? I've got a whole lot of them- 1994- present at DV, same years at PCMR, every trail map fom The Canyons but I missed this year, and then a whole bunch of other resorts all over the place from the Southeast Winter Sports Show in Miami every year

[liftmech]

I used to collect old maps, and I threw them out when I went to college. . I think I may still have a 1989 Mt Baker, a 1986-ish Crystal Mt., and a 1989 Whistler Mountain, but Lizz might have tossed them in her latest housecleaning sweep. I'll have to look.

[vancouverguy]

This is the 1980-81 trail map for Whistler and Blackcomb. You can see that this is Blackcomb's inaugural season- they only had a few runs at first, and little to no "expert" terrain. On Whistler, this was the first year it was possible to ride up the village side of the mountain- 30 minutes on three Yan triples, and then at least 10 more minutes on the Red or Green chairs. Also note that the Olympic Chair appears to have been shortened in the early '90s, possibly to make it easier to access from the gondola midstation.

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[Eric]

Do you have any of early 90s when they introduced the Quicksilver

[SkiBachelor]

Skimaps.com has one trail map that has it on there.

[vancouverguy]

No, I don't have any, unfortunately.

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[liftmech]

Where did the Village chair at Whistler end up- the boneyard or another area?

[vancouverguy]

I bet it was probably scrapped.

[scrutch2001]

liftmech, on Jan 21 2004, 07:02 PM, said:

NWS, on Jan 20 2004, 10:35 PM, said:

Here is an old trail map from Crystal Mountain in 1987.

Lifts on the map, no longer there:

C2 - Iceberg Ridge
C5 - Campbells Basin
C7 - Bulllion Basin
T-Bar
Rope Tows

Funny not seeing a lift where Forest Queen now is.

You must mean 1978, not '87- C-8 and C-9 were there in '87. That map is the way I remember Crystal when I was first skiing. I also remember getting off C-5 the first day of the '83-'84 season and thinking 'hey, where did that chair come from?' (C-9) Thanks for posting that, Bill. :)

Whatever happened to C7 - Bullion Basin? I haven't been to Crystal in ages and ages, but it looks on the current trail map like some runs have been carved out there where the Bullion Basin chair used to be. I also see in the master development plan that they plan to put a chair in there in the future. Kind of odd to carve out runs, build a chairlift, and then move it leaving the runs unused.

[Bill]

C7 - Bullion Basin moved to its current location, Gold Hills, it was re-installed in 1984 when they installed Discovery and Rendezvous. The new Crystal Mountain MDP will put a new lift in place of the old C7 and add an additional one above that called East Peak. Decision on the MDP will be issued this spring some time.

[vancouverguy]

Why did they decide to move the liift out of Bullion Basin, anyway?

[scrutch2001]

NWS, on Jan 30 2004, 12:28 PM, said:

C7 - Bullion Basin moved to its current location, Gold Hills, it was re-installed in 1984 when they installed Discovery and Rendezvous.  The new Crystal Mountain MDP will put a new lift in place of the old C7 and add an additional one above that called East Peak.  Decision on the MDP will be issued this spring some time.

Bear with me, it's been 20 years since I skiied Crystal, but.... where was Rendezvous?

I have a bunch of old trail maps from a book about Northwest Skiing circa 1969 I found at my parent's house in Seattle last summer. If there's interest, I can scan them and post them here. Imagine Crystal with 5 lifts, Stevens with 5 lifts, and the Summit at Snoqualmie with dozens of rope tows!

Steve Crutchfield aka scrutch2001

[Bill]

Please scan those and post them, if files are large, email them to submit@nw-skilifts.com.

Rendezvous is now where FOREST QUEEN EXPRESS is. The reason they moved the Bullion Basin lift was due to low snow coverage year after year. Which I am guessing will plague them in the future when a lift is re-installed there. You have to remember that the lifts on that side of the mountain are west facing, so they get more of the afternoon sunshine and wind. C-7 Gold Hills is usually the last lift to open for the season, right behind C-6 High Campbell.

If you have any other old collectables from Washington, please scan it and send it to the same email address.

Thank you in advance, you are offering something very precious. :)

[scrutch2001]

Here's a scan of a trail map for Crystal Mountain, circa 1968. Quicksilver was added around 1966... as I recall, it was the "new" chair when I first skiied there. The trailmap also shows the runs on the northside of the the resort... back then, they weren't called "Back Country." Sorry for the poor quality of the scan - the book is very old now, and I didn't want to break it.

I understand from somewhere on the web that one or two old lifts from Mt. Pilchuck were installed at Crystal after Pilchuck went bankrupt. Is that true, and if so, which ones are/were they.

Steve

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[SkiBachelor]

I could be wrong, but isn't that were the old high campbell lift came from. It's a hall with riblet parts. I think we talked about this lift in the past when Skier 2 was an avid member.

[scrutch2001]

Another old trail map, this time from Stevens Pass in 1968.

This was the area I grew up with. I started there in 1967 in junior high. At the time, there were four lifts .... #1 Barrier Mountain (commonly called "Big Chair"), #2 Intermediate Chair (commonly called "Little Chair"), #3 Seventh Heaven, and #4 Big Chief. At the time, Barrier Mountain ran to the right of the current alignment of what is now "Skyline Express." It still used some of the old wooden scaffolding that held the original T-bar put in in the early 1950's! There was a mid-station offloading platform which was almost never open, and a rope tow in the middle of the hill to the right of the liftline midway up the slope. There was a rope tow at the top of the hill with the sign "Take this rope to Seventh Heaven."

Seventh Heaven was (and is) one the SCARIEST chairlifts I've ever been on. I have a real fear of heights (and a skiier? Go figure!). The lift runs almost horizontal until the first tower, while the slope drops away rapidly below. I once got stuck there in a windstorm dangling what seemed like five miles above the snow with a buddy who decided it would be REAL fun to make the chair bounce. I wasn't amused! After the first tower, the lift runs practically vertically to the top of the hill. It seems as if you're going straight up. I do NOT recommend looking back as you ride the chair if you have vertigo.

The Intermediate Chair, later named "Blue Jay" and removed in the 1990's, originally was half the length shown on this map. It was extended in 1966. Big Chief, built in 1964, replaced bunch of rope tows. One of which was placed at the top of the chair for a little extra vertical (as shown in the map), but it was almost never open.

The chair labelled "Number 5" on this map is the current "Brooks" chair.

The collection of ropes between #3 Intermediate Chair and #4 Big Chief were collectively called Daisy 1, Daisy 2, Daisy 3, and Daisy 4. They were replaced by the current Daisy triple in the early 1970's.

Steve Crutchfield

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[vancouverguy]

I think someone said the High Campbell was from Yodelin.