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[snowboardguy]

Is Triple Black Reconized as an actual run classification? Or is it just because these runs are like straight down?

[KZ]

That looks scary. I probably would do one of those for awhile.

[Allan]

Our carpet arrived today! Not a triple black... but I wasn't going to start a new topic :) You can all watch the install next week on our webcam @ http://www.redresort.com/today/

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[SkiBachelor]

Are you going to get any cool lift installation pictures Allan? Isn't it kind of late to be getting a carpet in right now since you have to set up all the electrical stuff and dig out a lift line for it?

I'm just curious but who is the carpet manufacturer? Looks to me Kaser but I'm not sure.

[Durrrant]

edmontonguy, on Oct 21 2004, 08:19 PM, said:

Doesn't Smuggler's Notch in the east have a Triple black?
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Smuggs has triple black and four double blacks. However, the triple isn't really steeper than the doubles, it is just a tree run. on the east coast, natural snow trails and trees tend to get marked up a catagory as to keep beginners and un-competent skiers out of them.

Jay Peak's face "chutes", would probally be the closest thing to a "triple black". it would also probaly be the closest thing to skiing above the treeline in Vermont. Jay only uses green, blue, and black to mark trails, so there are no double blacks. However, the whole face ridge is incredibly steep, and the run right benath the pump house is almost vertical.

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[Allan]

SkiBachelor, on Nov 18 2004, 10:21 PM, said:

Are you going to get any cool lift installation pictures Allan? Isn't it kind of late to be getting a carpet in right now since you have to set up all the electrical stuff and dig out a lift line for it?

I'm just curious but who is the carpet manufacturer? Looks to me Kaser but I'm not sure.
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I'll try and get some pics for sure!! It is VERY late to be putting in a carpet... we're just lucky there's not a meter of snow on the ground! The electrical isn't too bad as the power is coming from the bottom of the T-Bar - about 20 feet from the top of the carpet. The control systems won't be too bad either, as the carpet will be 4/5 feet in the air.. so wiring under that is easy :)

[jibij]

This is star chute, probably the most extreme mammoth has to offer. A couple rock drops and 50+ degree skiing.

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[snowboardguy]

nothing like hitting up star chute with some friends who are about to pee themselves!

[floridaskier]

Thats insane. You lean too far over to have a look and you're not stopping for a while. Sam, did you take that picture?

[snowboardguy]

jibij, on Nov 19 2004, 03:33 PM, said:

This is star chute, probably the most extreme mammoth has to offer.  A couple rock drops and 50+ degree skiing.
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I dunno TOTW is pretty scary.

[jibij]

No, I didn't take that. I have never done star chute, just phillipes. That picture was taken by a guy that one of the people on my ski team skis with.

Here is his page of video clips from Mammoth: http://www.isi.edu/~...ing/videos.html

[pyrotechnik]

jibij, on Nov 19 2004, 03:33 PM, said:

This is star chute, probably the most extreme mammoth has to offer.  A couple rock drops and 50+ degree skiing.
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ahem... thats not 50+ degrees.. that's like 70 degrees!! that hardly has any snow cover. is it always like that?


at aalpental there are some pretty extreme runs. about what degree would the runs upper international, schluct and adrenalin have? just curious :D

[KZ]

That picture was taken in october, so no, it is not always like that. Ive ridden the 'noids and that was pretty steep on the drop in, but probably not even half of that.

[edmontonguy]

The Infamous Corbett's Couloir @ Jackson hole

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[liftmech]

pyrotechnik, on Nov 20 2004, 04:18 PM, said:

at alpental there are some pretty extreme runs. about what degree would the runs upper international, schluct and adrenalin have? just curious :D
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Upper Internationale is pretty steep; I'd guess the bowl itself is about 45-50 degrees and the entrance slot runs across a 60-degree pitch. Adrenalin is probably 50-55 degrees, and I'm not sure about Schluct.

[iceberg210]

I for one can voach for Internationale as the steepest run at least that I have gone down. It is incredibly steep but a blast when I went down it last winter anyway there are some really steep stuff at Alta off of Rustler and at Snowbird mainly in the Cirque.

Since run designations aren't standardized it doesn't seem to me that one can really truely compare runs across the board. For example there are runs at Brianhead and even Park City that while blacks there would be Blues at Alta or Snowbird. Why Big Emma is actually quite steep for a green and compared to runs at resorts such as Deer Valley etc would qualify for a blue possibly a black. Not taking anything away from triple diamonds but the fact of the matter is it is really tough to designate runs a certain difficulty level when you are comparing them.

[edmontonguy]

There's also the question, what classification does a gladed run get compared to an open run of the same ptich? All Kinds of factors play in.

[KZ]

Wouldnt it be cool if some organization was created that did standard classifications of runs. THey could then have a site that compares the national average ranking for that run to what it compares to at the resort. It would be a good judge to find out what terrain you will be getting if you go on a vacation or something.

[CAski]

Who would pay money for that? Just look at the runs from a distance (or from the top).

[snowboardguy]

I think it should just be standardized. It should just be done by pitch. You have to do it from the steepest part of the run though