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[skierdude9450]

snoloco, on 31 December 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

Looks like that is a bottom drive top tension. The bottom bullwheel does not appear to be tensioned and there looks to be drive components on top of the terminal.

That would be most logical since the only way to the top terminal right now is a steep hiking trail. I doubt it would even be possible to build a road up there.

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[snoloco]

skierdude9450, on 02 January 2014 - 10:11 PM, said:

That would be most logical since the only way to the top terminal right now is a steep hiking trail. I doubt it would even be possible to build a road up there.

Do UNI-G terminals allow a lift to have tensioning at the drive terminal or only at the return? I know that the UNI-M terminal allowed tensioning at the drive. I don't think that UNI G terminals have this ability because if they did, then the Sea To Sky Gondola would probably be a bottom drive bottom tension.

[rodo_af]

I posted some pictures of Gad2 (Snowbird - UT), on the Facebook page of RM.net. (Reports will be write during the winter...)

In this pictures album :
https://www.facebook...46627015&type=1

:)

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[DonaldMReif]

Doppelmayr did do some modifications to the Discovery and A51 lifts this year, namely, with regards to adding new lifting frames to the towers.

Here's Discovery from the Peru Express lift.



And take a close look at the towers on A51 to the right:


Excluding Argentine (as an auxiliary lift), this leaves the Ruby Express lift as the sole lift on the mountain to not have any Doppelmayr components.

In a related note, Keystone appears to have reduced the number of chairs on both the Peru Express (from 142 to 135) and the Montezuma Express (from 168 to 151), which I guess slightly reduces their uphill capacities from 2800 pph to roughly 2600 pph, as the chair spacing doesn't look too much larger on either of the lifts. Also, the original Doppelmayr number stickers on these two lifts have been replaced with new ones similar to the stickers put on the Outback Express, Wayback and the Santiago Express lift in 2011 (lift name above the number, Keystone logo below the number), which means chair #1 is now chair #01. Currently, only the Summit Express has chair number stickers with a Doppelmayr logo instead of the Keystone logo, but that's because they were put on in 2010 when a lot of the number stickers were peeling off.

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[Peter]

I found some pictures of the top of the Sea to Sky Gondola. Looks like it won't be inside a building like the bottom terminal.

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[rodo_af]

New pictures :

TSD4 Treasure Stoke - Woolf Creek (CO) / Doppelmayr




>> More in the Facebook page :
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[liftmech]

I see the counterweight mast from the old CTEC is still there.

[DonaldMReif]

How many towers and chairs are there on the Treasure Stoke Express? From the other photos, it looks like there are about twenty towers on the lift.

Of the new lifts built this year in Colorado, I think the Treasure Stoke Express was built the fastest, given it was completed by late October, when compared to he construction progress rates for the Mountaintop Express lift, the Zendo lift, or the Kensho SuperChair.

[Peter]

Kinosoo Ridge's new Doppelmayr Quad with another terminal design we haven't seen before.

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[DonaldMReif]

I guess by "haven't seen before" you mean "haven't seen a fixed grip drive terminal with the skin of a high speed quad's UNI-G terminal before"?

[Peter]

DonaldMReif, on 11 January 2014 - 09:53 PM, said:

I guess by "haven't seen before" you mean "haven't seen a fixed grip drive terminal with the skin of a high speed quad's UNI-G terminal before"?

No, Doppelmayr has built a few like it but this one is shorter.

[floridaskier]

Did they reuse towers at Wolf Creek? Haven't seen a depression tower support like this on a CTEC lift for about 10 years

[DonaldMReif]

I think you're right. Though I'm just saying that based on Google historical imagery, as Wolf Creek's satellite imagery has been updated to show the Treasure Stoke Express. Previous imagery shows those tower foundations as coming from the original Treasure lift.

[SkiBachelor]

Doubtful since the old Treasurer lift was quite old and did not feature galvanized towers.

[DonaldMReif]

I guess more likely they were reusing the tower foundations. I believe that was what happened at Vail when Hunky Dory was replaced with the Wildwood Express lift, which is why the Wildwood Express has very closely spaced towers (given the lift has 18 towers and 76 chairs).

[liftmech]

DonaldMReif, on 11 January 2014 - 09:53 PM, said:

I guess by "haven't seen before" you mean "haven't seen a fixed grip drive terminal with the skin of a high speed quad's UNI-G terminal before"?

I think he's referring to the concrete pedestal/cantilevered bullwheel return station.

[boardski]

The original Treasure lift is due to be reinstalled as "Elma lift" this summer also so they probably want to use the tower uprights also. Interestingly enough, in the case of lift #3 at Vail, many of the uprights/ tubes of those towers are from the Yan triple which was the relocated #4 lift from 1985. I rode my bike up the mountain in 1995 when they were installing the current detatch lift and noticed the tops cut off the tubes and the cross-arms from the current CTEC being installed. The triple version of the #4 lift was originally installed in 1974 if I recall correctly. That chair and the original #14 were the only lifts which had the triple wide versions of the early-mid 70's style Yan chairs (similar to Argentine at Key, Mtn Chief/ Blackjack at Copper, etc.) in Colorado.

[vons]

I thought #3 was a Yan quad called Honkey Dory and it had the 1000 series drive terminal (1980's vintage with the mirrored windows matching the curve of the bull wheel) before being converted to wildwood exp. but I may be wrong on the size.

[silence]

vons, on 12 January 2014 - 05:09 PM, said:

I thought #3 was a Yan quad called Honkey Dory and it had the 1000 series drive terminal (1980's vintage with the mirrored windows matching the curve of the bull wheel) before being converted to wildwood exp. but I may be wrong on the size.

I feel like it was a fixed grip quad inbetween being a triple and detachable quad...

[DonaldMReif]

It is now interesting comparing both of Wolf Creek's high speed quads given that they have different Doppelmayr designs: both have DT-104 grips, but the Raven Express has UNI-GS terminals and Garaventa chairs, while the Treasure Stoke Express has UNI-G terminals and EJ chairs. I'd go down to do a photo tour of the Treasure Stoke Express lift like I've done with the Mountaintop Express lift (http://www.skilifts....?showtopic=9726) or the Kensho SuperChair (http://www.skilifts....?showtopic=9746) if I didn't live in Denver.

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