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#21 Emax

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 11:17 PM

I sure hope they're not using the same SLC-designed electrical system that Jan put in the last of the Doppeltecs. I have two of those and they are terrible.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 05:11 PM

View PostEmax, on 19 July 2011 - 11:17 PM, said:

I sure hope they're not using the same SLC-designed electrical system that Jan put in the last of the Doppeltecs. I have two of those and they are terrible.


Aye, we have one, a bucket sits beneath the panel to collect the burned-out and shunted diodes. Lots of repaired printed-circuit traces. It's actually not so bad since we installed isolating knife-terminals for ALL external wires. Open the knives else buy much beer.

It would be interresting to ask Doppelmayr to quote on a genuine Doppelmayr control system for one of these lifts.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 10:40 PM

Quote

It would be interesting to ask Doppelmayr to quote on a genuine Doppelmayr control system for one of these lifts.


Better yet get a quote to EMAX them... :biggrin:
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 08:07 AM

View Posticeberg210, on 20 July 2011 - 10:40 PM, said:

Better yet get a quote to EMAX them... :biggrin:


True enough. Ed, Joe and I do a MUCH better job. Doppelmayr, as well, could learn a thing or two about directness and clarity in design.

When you consider that lift controls are overseen by technicians and lift operators (and not German engineers), it seems only reasonable that the design and execution of those controls reflect this fact. Such an approach also makes the design more clear to inspectors - who are supposed to understand how the thing works. For the most part they never do, you know - they just jump through the hoops.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:10 AM

vid of Skytrac's partner in Europehttp://www.tsr.ch/video/info/journal-19h30/3690157-presentation-de-l-entreprise-bartholet-dernier-fabricant-suisse-independant-de-telepheriques-et-telesieges.html

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:10 PM

BMF plant tour was this weekend. The fancy black 6 pack chair pivots at the bale hanger connection to give a better view of the mountains, most likely an unnecessary and expensive option.http://www.bergbahnen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1916&sid=a7a5a230a30caac5cf85e848613e28bc

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:06 AM

An other BMF project http://www.facebook....42542892&type=1 The chairs where designed by Porsche. The chairs pivot on the hanger arm connection to face away from the lift and have solar powered seat heating, with the panels on the back of each seat.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 11:13 AM

Skytrak is trying - very trying.
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 12:30 PM

View Postvons, on 02 December 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:

An other BMF project http://www.facebook....42542892&type=1 The chairs where designed by Porsche. The chairs pivot on the hanger arm connection to face away from the lift and have solar powered seat heating, with the panels on the back of each seat.

What's the reason behind having the chair tilted at a 45 degree away from the lift line?
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 06:25 PM

I think it is just a gimmick, the manufacturer (BMF) claims its to get a better view of the scenery.

Bud, I have noticed that Skytrak has completed another three projects this year, other than that, I have no idea how they are doing or what products they are working toward.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 11:15 PM

View PostSkiBachelor, on 02 December 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

What's the reason behind having the chair tilted at a 45 degree away from the lift line?


I can feel the oscillation’s already.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 12:51 PM

more pictureshttps://www.facebook...31970470&type=1

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:44 AM

SkyTrac just completed a FG quad at Haystack, VT

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:17 PM

Around the end of March I visited the SkyTrac plant in SLC. David Metivier and Carl Skylling where very accommodating and welcoming. David gave me a full tour of the facility and we chatted for a long time about the plans for the company.

SkyTrac is the North American Representative and service provider for Bartholet (BMF). Currently SkyTrac is in the process of developing a detachable lift product with BMF tailored to the US market. The current BMF detachable grip is available to SkyTrac for use in the US market, unfortunately it is a large grip requiring large a large diameter haul rope (>46mm) and large sheaves (500mm+) making instillations using it, other than 8-12 person gondolas, uneconomical for the US market where quad chairs are the norm. Currently development is underway on a smaller version of the grip to fill these US market needs.

I'd like to thank David and Carl for taking the time to show me the plant. I recommend anyone attending RMLA stop by their booth as their firm has much to offer in terms of parts and service, especially for CTEC biased equipment at your resort.

New web site http://www.skytracli...ytrac-Home.html

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 03:37 PM

View Postvons, on 04 July 2011 - 02:27 PM, said:

finished product @ Monarch


That terminal has more curves than the South Ridge Triple.
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Posted 02 May 2013 - 03:55 PM

? :huh: ?

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 04:13 PM

View Postvons, on 02 May 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

? :huh: ?


SkyTrac has very sexy terminals, in my opinion. The SRT at Killington had a normal return line, but the uphill side had a bullwheel turn in the middle. Essentially, the lift was a triangle.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:01 PM

would have been interesting to see a destructive test done on Killington's South Ridge Triple (prior to removal) similar to the 1990 Eskimo tests at Winter Park. SRT would have been a great rock launcher at the turning towers.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:04 PM

View Postvons, on 02 May 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

Around the end of March I visited the SkyTrac plant in SLC. David Metivier and Carl Skylling where very accommodating and welcoming. David gave me a full tour of the facility and we chatted for a long time about the plans for the company.

SkyTrac is the North American Representative and service provider for Bartholet (BMF). Currently SkyTrac is in the process of developing a detachable lift product with BMF tailored to the US market. The current BMF detachable grip is available to SkyTrac for use in the US market, unfortunately it is a large grip requiring large a large diameter haul rope (>46mm) and large sheaves (500mm+) making instillations using it, other than 8-12 person gondolas, uneconomical for the US market where quad chairs are the norm. Currently development is underway on a smaller version of the grip to fill these US market needs.

I'd like to thank David and Carl for taking the time to show me the plant. I recommend anyone attending RMLA stop by their booth as their firm has much to offer in terms of parts and service, especially for CTEC biased equipment at your resort.

New web site http://www.skytracli...ytrac-Home.html


Thanks for sharing this about SkyTrac. It's nice to know a little more about them. I haven't gotten to ride any of their lifts yet, but they sure look nice!

I like that SkyTrac is American-owned. Not that there's anything wrong with the European manufacturers, but it's always nice to have an American company offering a good product.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:14 PM

Here are some photos of the Tage Lift at Haystack.






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