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Wanted: OLD Doppelmayr t-bar parts

JohnRW's Photo JohnRW 10 Jan 2013

OK, Doppelmayr isn't being very helpful (or can't help me) so I'll turn to you all and beg for assistance ...

We need sheave parts for our mid-'50s Doppelmayr t-bar - specifically axles, hubs, and hub spacers for compression sheaves. I can still get a few parts readily from Doppelmayr, but they can't find parts to match these sheaves. If anyone out there has an old (OLD) t-bar laying around, or know someone who does, I'd be eternally grateful for a point in the right direction!

Thanks!

John
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Lift Dinosaur's Photo Lift Dinosaur 11 Jan 2013

Hi John,
While I can't help you with the parts, I can offer you a suggestion.
My experience is that as these lifts become fewer and fewer in Europe the Manufacturer no longer stocks the parts- they become special order. As the need dwindles further the Manufacturer will no longer produce them, but will have them made by a sub-supplier which results in higher costs and longer lead times. Other parts simply become "obsolete".
I would recommend that you see if you can get a hold of the original drawings from Doppelmayr and try to find a machine shop near you to fabricate them. Another issue will be that the parts in Europe are made from metric stock (i.e. 25mm tubing vs 1" tubing) so the machine work required will be greater.
Hope this helps.
Dino
This post has been edited by Lift Dinosaur: 11 January 2013 - 06:03 AM
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Kelly's Photo Kelly 11 Jan 2013

One other idea is to purchase (or adapt another brand) complete new assembly then use those remaining parts for spares.
Kelly
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JohnRW's Photo JohnRW 11 Jan 2013

Dino & Kelly,

Thanks very much for your input. Unfortunately Doppelmayr has so far been unable even to find the drawings (!) for whatever lift we have. Part of the issue is that we don't have any manuals, install sheets, etc. to give them a starting place. If they can't come up with anything, we may start taking some of the spares to a machine shop to have them replicated. You're very right about the metric issue - we've already had to have a shop redo some work on a sheave train hangar bracket because they tried to get away with using a "close enough" imperial-sized stock instead of machining down to metric.

I'll engage with Doppelmayr as well about the route Kelly is suggesting - start buying parts that Doppelmayr does still make and build new sheave trains one at a time to accommodate whatever the design differences are. That's probably the better solution if we want to keep this lift going long-term.

Then again, maybe someone will give us a million bucks in their will and we can just get a new lift put in ... :cheers:

JRW
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mikest2's Photo mikest2 11 Jan 2013

Hi John, send me some pictures, sounds like it'a the widened sheave (spacer between the liner and sideplate) could be type o, a, or bc. I have a lot of archived drawings from 1962 on. Doppelmayr Kelowna is a good source as well. i've got some stuff in the boneyard, but it;s gone til June !
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JohnRW's Photo JohnRW 13 Jan 2013

View Postmikest2, on 11 January 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

Hi John, send me some pictures, sounds like it'a the widened sheave (spacer between the liner and sideplate) could be type o, a, or bc. I have a lot of archived drawings from 1962 on. Doppelmayr Kelowna is a good source as well. i've got some stuff in the boneyard, but it;s gone til June !


Thanks, Mike. I'm travelling for another couple weeks and don't have access to my photos. Will send/post some when I return. You are right that it is the widened sheave with the spacer between the liner and the sideplate (or what's left of the spacers - they've been pretty chewed up over the years).

John
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JohnRW's Photo JohnRW 13 Jan 2013

Mike -
I did have a couple pictures with me after all. Not sure if these are enough to positively ID anything.

Thanks,

John

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mikest2's Photo mikest2 13 Jan 2013

If It' a good sized rope, 3/4" or better, I'd say it's a BC wide, I should have drawings, and may even have Doppelmayr part numbers. I still have drawings from our 1962 Dopp, as I remember, there were no bushings in the assemblies. I'll do some digging !
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JohnRW's Photo JohnRW 13 Jan 2013

View Postmikest2, on 13 January 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

If It' a good sized rope, 3/4" or better, I'd say it's a BC wide, I should have drawings, and may even have Doppelmayr part numbers. I still have drawings from our 1962 Dopp, as I remember, there were no bushings in the assemblies. I'll do some digging !


Mike - It's a 1" rope. Fingers crossed - thank you!!
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mikest2's Photo mikest2 13 Jan 2013

I may even have some sheaves kicking around, but they are under sevsn feet of snow !
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mikest2's Photo mikest2 14 Jan 2013

check your PM John
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