Just found this in a press release:
"New for 2005: Friendly Giant High Speed Quad replaced by 6 passenger Gondola – in operation Mid December."
This post has been edited by LiftFreak: 07 November 2004 - 02:38 PM
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Gondola @ LL
Started by LiftFreak, Nov 07 2004 02:04 PM
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Posted 07 November 2004 - 02:04 PM
The towers are already in place. Perhaps they open it this season.
Just found this in a press release:
"New for 2005: Friendly Giant High Speed Quad replaced by 6 passenger Gondola – in operation Mid December."
Just found this in a press release:
"New for 2005: Friendly Giant High Speed Quad replaced by 6 passenger Gondola – in operation Mid December."
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Posted 07 November 2004 - 07:56 PM
Probably just some sort of cover over an exposed terminal. Maybe it would be termprary or maybe they will just wait till next season and build some new building.
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Posted 07 November 2004 - 08:09 PM
I kind of think that it would be a new terminal and girps. If that was the case, this gondola could be operational before the winter holiday maybe. Since the old gondola terminal was built inside a building and some of it still remains since it was part of the struture, it would cost too much to redesign and older terminal. When Sun Valley retrofitted its yan's, it only costed $5 million. So it shouldn't cost that much for new terminals and stuff.
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Posted 08 November 2004 - 04:48 AM
That depends on what kind of shape the old terminal equipment and grips are. Going off my experince working on the Flyer (a year newer than this lift but with much higher hours) the mid-80s TB equipment holds up pretty well. If Squaw hadn't robbed too many parts off the lift, it could be in fine shape.
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Posted 08 November 2004 - 09:17 PM
Well all the machinery was taken out of Gold Coast so chances are they are going to try and build a new terminal using both old and new parts. I'm guessing the old grips will be used to save costs and all that. Remember the lift only cost $500,000 so spending another $500,000 to build some nice terminals and all still isn't bad. 1 million for a new gondola and terminals is quite the deal if you ask me. Sure beats paying 5 or 6 for a new one.
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Posted 08 November 2004 - 09:32 PM
Yea, and with some simple upgrades like replacing the chair driven contour and just new sensors and electronics it will be just about as good as a brand new lift. I'm am still suprised how long it took for squaw to sell it.
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Posted 10 November 2004 - 04:51 AM
I imagine areas with no experience working on the TB grips and terminals were leery of buying it, simply because it's old. As far as Tyler's observation that not working on the grips might make them worse- if I were LL's maintenance department, I'd rebuild every one of those grips even if they had been in operation up to last season. There aren't too many parts that wear out on the TBs; mostly you need to disassemble them and clean them up nice before you lube them up, and they should be good to go.
The TB grips are more or less compatible with the Omega terminals except for the compression rail. The Omega rail is much shorter (the grip opens and closes back up in a short time) plus it's 'warped' to allow full compression roller contact. The TB rail is much longer and is all in the same plane. The support or principal rollers are slightly different widths, and the lateral rollers are identical.
The TB grips are more or less compatible with the Omega terminals except for the compression rail. The Omega rail is much shorter (the grip opens and closes back up in a short time) plus it's 'warped' to allow full compression roller contact. The TB rail is much longer and is all in the same plane. The support or principal rollers are slightly different widths, and the lateral rollers are identical.
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 08:17 PM
i heard that the old quad chair "friendly giant" at louise was condemned and this is what forced there hand to buy the gondola can anyone confirm this???
glad to hear that some consider this a good move,, lake louise is not considered to have made many,,
o the old gondola base is well below the base of the current hill ... this lift has not been used in a long time,, and i dont think they would use any parts of it for anything,,
i heard they were flying inthe new towers with a chopper about a week or two ago...
another rumor: they are getting rid of eagle double chair once the gondola is finished...
the guys at the lake should be ok with working on this old lift,, almost everything there is old
glad to hear that some consider this a good move,, lake louise is not considered to have made many,,
o the old gondola base is well below the base of the current hill ... this lift has not been used in a long time,, and i dont think they would use any parts of it for anything,,
i heard they were flying inthe new towers with a chopper about a week or two ago...
another rumor: they are getting rid of eagle double chair once the gondola is finished...
the guys at the lake should be ok with working on this old lift,, almost everything there is old
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 11:15 PM
jimmyzee53, on Nov 26 2004, 08:17 PM, said:
i heard that the old quad chair "friendly giant" at louise was condemned and this is what forced there hand to buy the gondola can anyone confirm this???
glad to hear that some consider this a good move,, lake louise is not considered to have made many,,
o the old gondola base is well below the base of the current hill ... this lift has not been used in a long time,, and i dont think they would use any parts of it for anything,,
i heard they were flying inthe new towers with a chopper about a week or two ago...
another rumor: they are getting rid of eagle double chair once the gondola is finished...
the guys at the lake should be ok with working on this old lift,, almost everything there is old
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glad to hear that some consider this a good move,, lake louise is not considered to have made many,,
o the old gondola base is well below the base of the current hill ... this lift has not been used in a long time,, and i dont think they would use any parts of it for anything,,
i heard they were flying inthe new towers with a chopper about a week or two ago...
another rumor: they are getting rid of eagle double chair once the gondola is finished...
the guys at the lake should be ok with working on this old lift,, almost everything there is old
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http://www.skilifts....?showtopic=1599
http://www.skilifts....?showtopic=1349
If you want to direct your vitriol at anyone in particular about the condition of Lake Louise (and the closure of Fortress Mountain, in case you didn't know), your best bet would be in the direction of Charlie Locke - chairman, grand poobah and great exhalted leader of Resorts of the Canadian Rockies - also known as RCR or Really Crappily (run) Resorts. Oops, you can't! The company was forced into bankruptcy a few years back and one of the conditions of its emergence was Charlie's forced departure. Canada's Explore Magazine ran an interview/feature article back in March 2004 called 'Twilight of the Hardass', which garnered equal parts approval and disapproval from the readership, so it's worth checking out if you can find it.
From this humble snowrider's perspective, it's going to take more than a Gondola to bring LL's yearly visitor numbers back up to where they once were (Sunshine has kicked their ass regularly in total visitors for the past 4-5 seasons). It's a shame because I really used to love skiing there. Now, it's mostly the place I pass by when I'm on my way to Kicking Horse for the day.
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Posted 29 November 2004 - 03:51 PM
In regards to the terminals the main structure componants left at squaw will be fabricated to spec and the resort will reuse the rest. To skin the lift i suppose that LL will just get a steel truss building and enclose the entire terminal,it is far easier and cheeper than fitting new terminals or fabricating a skin for the old.
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Posted 29 November 2004 - 04:27 PM
The World Cup downhill was there on the weekend, as many of you may know. The terminal structure is up though i don't know if the tire banks and bullwheel have been installed yet. The snow has been cleared around the terminal but there doesn't seem to be any foundation work yet if infact there is going to be a terminal building.
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Posted 29 November 2004 - 09:03 PM
My bet is it's probably going to be an exposed terminal, just like the top and bottom terminals at Sunshine.
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Posted 02 December 2004 - 02:50 PM
steel truss buildings don't need a full foundation just footing for each truss since these can get in the way while building the lift they will be more than likly poured after the majority of the terminal is built.
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Posted 15 December 2004 - 08:38 PM
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Posted 24 December 2004 - 11:06 PM
Team Pigeon, on Dec 15 2004, 08:38 PM, said:
Gotta remember guys that Poma was shoe-horned into an existing building designed around the Yandola. The Poma gondola at Squaw was unique...one of a kind...not typical dimensions. Yes, yes Poma parts, but not in a normal configeration. Lots of one of a kind stuff. Good luck to Highlander on that install.
Hopefully LL bought new terminals.
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